Home  •  Next Meeting  •  MacGroup Store  •  Contact Us  •  iCal  •  Check Email  •  Site Index

MacGroup-Detroit    MacGroup iBBS    MacGroup iBBS  Hop To Forum Categories  Desktop Publishing    Indesign CS3 - Print Booklet Feature
Page 1 2 
Go
New
Find
Notify
Tools
Reply
  
-star Rating Rate It!  Login/Register 
Padawan
Picture of lorelei
Posted
Indesign CS3 - Print Booklet Feature (save as feature?)
Is there a way to Preserve a workable Indesign CS3 in a booklet format? I am currently printing to PDF - But the file no longer workable in Indesign also you lose some of the PDF settings (None of my presets are available)...
I went from CS to CS3 - someone told me there was an InBooklet feature in CS2 - I cannot find it in CS3... was it discontinued, a third party Feature or am I not looking hard enough? Wink
Thanks Again,
Lorelei
 
Posts: 51 | Registered: December 17, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Jedi Master
Picture of CHunter
Posted Hide Post
"Is there a way to Preserve a workable Indesign CS3 in a booklet format?"
• Only if you create the original doc in the Imposed layout.
• InBooklet (ALAP) was purchased by Quark... Quark doesn't like InDesign...
Hence, you can't print an ID doc to an imposed ID doc, the way you could before.
• You will need Acrobat to edit the PDF you are printing from the Booklet command.
• Sorry, can respond to the Presets part. I'm not where I can review it for you.
 
Posts: 1053 | Registered: June 16, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Padawan
Picture of lorelei
Posted Hide Post
I hope CS4 will come out with a another type of pagination process...
Thank you Smile
 
Posts: 51 | Registered: December 17, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Jedi Knight
Posted Hide Post
I'm assuming that you want to create and retain printer spreads, as a new InDesign document. Obviously, you can paginate the document manually. If you are looking for a quick solution in InDesign CS3, I don't think that it's available. You can certainly do the Print Booklet thing to either PDF or as a Postscript File, but neither will open in InDesign and be editable.

I have and have used a Script in InDesign CS that allowed me to create Paginated Files, in Printer Spreads, by simply running the script. It's called BuildBooklet.js. It used be available on Adobe Exchange, but not longer seems to be there. There are a few others available on Adobe Exchange, though I haven't tried them.

http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm?searchf...=true&sort=0&Submit=

As I mentioned, I used BuildBooket.js in CS, and still have it. I tried it in CS3 and it seems to work fine.

The only thing you'd have to pay attention to, are elements that cross the gutter of a spread.

I hope this helps.
 
Posts: 366 | Registered: February 15, 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Genius
Picture of Jack Beckman
Posted Hide Post
I'm just curious as to why you would want to do this. Not criticizing, just really don't understand the value of imposition on the InDesign file itself. I do it all the time with output, but I don't see how it's helpful to do that on the InDesign document.


===
Professor Hubert Farnsworth: “Nothing is impossible. Not if you can imagine it. That’s what being a scientist is all about.”
Cubert J. Farnsworth: “No, that’s what being a magical elf is all about.”

 
Posts: 4732 | Location: Sterling Heights, Mi | Registered: January 25, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Padawan
Picture of lorelei
Posted Hide Post
Hi jack,
It is not important for me to have the ID doc editable (although it would be nice to package the Booklet - in case of last second changes during a tight deadline - when I outsource a job).
MORE IMPORTANT: The control I lose over the PDF compression settings & I also lose my PDF presets when I "print" to PDF.
I did just upgrade - it might be operator error - I have to Play with "Print to PDF" a little more.
Thanks,
Lorelei Smile
 
Posts: 51 | Registered: December 17, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Padawan
Picture of lorelei
Posted Hide Post
Thanks Mike - Smile
 
Posts: 51 | Registered: December 17, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Genius
Picture of Jack Beckman
Posted Hide Post
Don't "print" to PDF - Export to PDF. There are a lot of controls in the Adobe PDF Presets dialogs.


===
Professor Hubert Farnsworth: “Nothing is impossible. Not if you can imagine it. That’s what being a scientist is all about.”
Cubert J. Farnsworth: “No, that’s what being a magical elf is all about.”

 
Posts: 4732 | Location: Sterling Heights, Mi | Registered: January 25, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Jedi Knight
Posted Hide Post
lorelei,

Since seeing your initial message, I've done some online nosing around. It seems that the script that I mentioned is no longer available on Adobe Exchange for download. However, I still have it, and it's shareware. I've used it in InDesign CS, and ran a test this afternoon in InDesign CS3 - and, it seems to work fine.

If you would like to try the script, please provide me with your email address, and I would be happy to send it to you - along with instructions on how to and where to install it, and a quick rundown of how to use it.

I'm not sure if I can post the files on the iBBS - hence the request for your email address.
 
Posts: 366 | Registered: February 15, 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Padawan
Picture of lorelei
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by Jack Beckman:
Don't "print" to PDF - Export to PDF. There are a lot of controls in the Adobe PDF Presets dialogs.


I have to print to PDF to the Utilize Booklet Feature in ID CS3 (you can't save you can only print) - to send to my (outsource) printer. (repaginating - manually a 44 page Booklet would not be fun)
 
Posts: 51 | Registered: December 17, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Padawan
Picture of lorelei
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Gawet:
lorelei,

Since seeing your initial message, I've done some online nosing around. It seems that the script that I mentioned is no longer available on Adobe Exchange for download. However, I still have it, and it's shareware. I've used it in InDesign CS, and ran a test this afternoon in InDesign CS3 - and, it seems to work fine.

If you would like to try the script, please provide me with your email address, and I would be happy to send it to you - along with instructions on how to and where to install it, and a quick rundown of how to use it.

I'm not sure if I can post the files on the iBBS - hence the request for your email address.


Thanks Mike!!
I did download Biequine.sit, TwoUp.sit & 2UpBooklet.sit from the exchange - they did not seem to work.
My work Email address: lorelei@bluebook.ws
Thanks again,
Lorelei
 
Posts: 51 | Registered: December 17, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Genius
Picture of Jack Beckman
Posted Hide Post
I use a program called BookLightning to do imposition. You can try it for free to see if it works for you. I Export as PDF and then drop the PDF on BookLightning.


===
Professor Hubert Farnsworth: “Nothing is impossible. Not if you can imagine it. That’s what being a scientist is all about.”
Cubert J. Farnsworth: “No, that’s what being a magical elf is all about.”

 
Posts: 4732 | Location: Sterling Heights, Mi | Registered: January 25, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Padawan
Picture of lorelei
Posted Hide Post
Thanks Jack, I'll try it...
Lorelei Smile

quote:
Originally posted by Jack Beckman:
I use a program called BookLightning to do imposition. You can try it for free to see if it works for you. I Export as PDF and then drop the PDF on BookLightning.
 
Posts: 51 | Registered: December 17, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Jedi Master
Picture of CHunter
Posted Hide Post
Lorelei,
Your printer, if you have one, should be telling you to Export to PDF.
And you should want to Export to PDF, really. It's easier.
You can set all the presets you need for that PDF in InDesign
and any last minute changes will not be a issue, just re-Export.
A printer will have, should have, the software to impose the PDF
that you give to them.

I'd love to help you with this, but right now, I shouldn't even
be here responding, I'm knee-deep in my own stuff. Smile
 
Posts: 1053 | Registered: June 16, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Padawan
Picture of lorelei
Posted Hide Post
GOOD NEWS! The Booklet Script Mike suggested, worked!
Big Grin
 
Posts: 51 | Registered: December 17, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Jedi Knight
Posted Hide Post
I'd like to add one more comment to this post, as it pertains to "why anyone would want or want to save a file in Printer Spreads". The main reason, at least for me, is that some printers and some clients request that files be supplied to them in printer spreads. It not only allows them to do last minute edits, but mainly it's save them a ton of time. And, who knows better than the designer, if the imposition and Printer Spreads are correct.

Not too long ago, commercial printers didn't want our InDesign files. They wanted PDFs. That has changed.
 
Posts: 366 | Registered: February 15, 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Genius
Picture of Jack Beckman
Posted Hide Post
Thanks. Since I have always been the "client", I always had the originals to work from.


===
Professor Hubert Farnsworth: “Nothing is impossible. Not if you can imagine it. That’s what being a scientist is all about.”
Cubert J. Farnsworth: “No, that’s what being a magical elf is all about.”

 
Posts: 4732 | Location: Sterling Heights, Mi | Registered: January 25, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Jedi Master
Picture of CHunter
Posted Hide Post
PDF's are pretty awesome, it's not old technology,
it's new, and solidly ingrained into and the foundation of Adobe products.
ID and PDF's integrate wonderfully.
As a client and designer, who works a lot in both ID and Acrobat, sing the virtues of both,
I'd much rather send my printer a PDF than my ID Folder of files and fonts...
More design control and much less to go wrong.

The bottom line, though, as always is:
"Do, what works best for you."
 
Posts: 1053 | Registered: June 16, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Jedi Knight
Posted Hide Post
CHunter,

I concur with your comments.

I would certainly prefer sending a printer a Press Quality PDF for print - even using their Distiller Job Settings. It's much easier, and more predictable.

I didn't mean to imply that PDFs are OLD technology. And, I totally agree that it's ingrained into the process. However, there ARE instances that clients and printers request the original InDesign files. They create their own PDFs for their workflow. They hang on to the original InDesign files for future use and edits. The only point that I was trying to make is that, no too long ago, InDesign files were problematic for printers. They didn't prefer them. They preferred Xpress files. And, if you were working in InDesign, they preferred a PDF.
 
Posts: 366 | Registered: February 15, 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Jedi Master
Picture of CHunter
Posted Hide Post
Absolutely Mike.
Thank goodness for progress on everyone's end. Wink
 
Posts: 1053 | Registered: June 16, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
  Powered by Eve Community Page 1 2  
 

MacGroup-Detroit    MacGroup iBBS    MacGroup iBBS  Hop To Forum Categories  Desktop Publishing    Indesign CS3 - Print Booklet Feature

© MacGroup-Detroit 2009

Next Meeting | Join Now | News | About MacGroup | Check Your Mail