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Poobah
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We are finally getting HDTVs and trying to decide what to do about our DVRs. Currently we have Standard Def TiVos. Trying to decide whether to upgrade the TiVos to TiVo Premiers, Comcast DVRs, or switch TV service to AT&T U-verse.

Have Comcast & AT&T's DVRs improved or will be be disappointed?

We will have to pay either $198 for 2 TiVos + $34.98 per month for service

OR $399.98 for 2 TiVos + $22.90 per month service.
 
Posts: 2095 | Location: Grand Rapids, MI | Registered: June 10, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Go with TiVo and stay as far away as you can from AT&T.

Check the REAL speed difference between AT&T and Comcast, ask real users.
 
Posts: 1658 | Location: Oak Park, MI, USA | Registered: January 31, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Poobah
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This would only be for TV service. we're keeping Comcast for internet.
 
Posts: 2095 | Location: Grand Rapids, MI | Registered: June 10, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Poobah
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Why not try your current Tivos with your new TVs to see how they look before you run out and buy new? Depending upon the size of your screen, you may not notice any difference.

Are you going to receive TV over the air now, rather than Comcast?
 
Posts: 2302 | Location: Ann Arbor MI USA | Registered: October 22, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Poobah
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Hooked it up to the 32" 720p, does not look the best. The 50" 1080p Plasma will be delivered next week. We def want an HD signal.

Also since these are HDTVs, it would be a 4:3 480i upscaled image on a 16:9 screen

We will be getting HD cable.

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Poobah
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Just ordered 2 TiVos, contract-free.

May look into some cord cutting down the road.
 
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Poobah
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Contract free from Tivo listings? How are you going to b e able to have those Tivos get the shows you want?
 
Posts: 2302 | Location: Ann Arbor MI USA | Registered: October 22, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Poobah
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I still have to pay a monthly fee, just not tied to a contract & can cancel at anytime. This also enabled me to keep the lower monthly fees I'm currently paying.
 
Posts: 2095 | Location: Grand Rapids, MI | Registered: June 10, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Jim:

Do you know that each of the new TiVo's will need a dual stream Cable Card. We have two of the newer TiVo's and they will record two separate programs at the same time and let you watch a third program,

When the 'rocket scientist' Comcast tech came out originally to install the cable cards he installed Two Dual Stream cards in each of our TiVo's and Argued that we needed two cards in each unit. After he left I removed one card (dual stream) from each unit and it handles both tuners in the TiVo.

The only way 2 cards would be needed per TiVo would be if they were single stream cards.

Comcast in Oak Park does Not charge a monthly fee for the cable cards.
 
Posts: 1658 | Location: Oak Park, MI, USA | Registered: January 31, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Poobah
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I'll have to me sure he only puts 1 card in each. The TiVo rep already told me I only need 1 per unit. Wish I could just pick them up and do it myself. The TiVo rep said the original HD TiVos required 2 cards.
 
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That wasn't a Tivo limitation - when they first came out, there were no dual-stream cards. I have a couple of the earliest HD Tivos, and used to have two cards in each, but when the dual-stream cards came out I had them replaced with a single card in each Tivo.


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Posts: 5473 | Location: Sterling Heights, Mi | Registered: January 25, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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TiVo Premieres only have ONE Dual Stream slot now. So you don't have to worry about sticking two in because you can't :-)


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Posts: 6154 | Location: Atlanta, GA | Registered: June 10, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Although you've already chosen to go with TiVo (wise choice) here is an excerpt from one my TiVo reviews a while back. I updated it a bit:

Why TiVo?

One of my buddies asked me, "why did I like TiVo so much?" After all, your cable or satellite provider will in most cases throw in a FREE/Low cost DVR just to get your business. Why would I pay hundreds of dollars for a TiVo box (let alone 3 of them) plus the fees for the TiVo service? It’s one of those things that’s hard to explain in writing. It’s all about the User Experience! I still have one Comcast box left in my office. I don’t watch TV in that location that often, so I’ll probably just keep it. However, there is NO COMPARISON when it comes to the user interface between TiVo and generic DVRs. It’s like asking a Mac user, "why do you like the Mac? Isn’t it just a computer?" Or like asking an iPhone user, "isn’t it just a phone?" Until you’ve used one, you wouldn’t understand. Could I get by with the generic DVR provided by Comcast? Sure. I just wouldn’t want to! With the Comcast box, I can’t transfer shows (easily) to my computer, I can’t transfer shows from one box to another. I get no choice in the amount of storage. I can do all of this with TiVo HD and more.

TiVo has also partnered with Amazon, Netflix, Blockbuster, Hulu and others. So you can not only record shows from your cable provider, but you can also download/stream movie rentals and TV shows directly to your TiVo’s hard drive. You can also subscribe to Podcasts directly on your TiVo as well as stream music. I do most of this via Apple TV 2 for a better experience, but it’s nice to know that it can be done all from the TiVo HD/Premiere. END Excerpt

Although Comcast has been stepping up their game a bit with things like their iPhone and iPad Apps, there is no way that I would choose the Comcast DVR over my TiVo Premiere XLs. TiVo also continues to improve their service/boxes with software updates. The latest one now lets you stream recorded shows from one box to the other (you used to have to transfer/copy the show).

Speaking of Apps, the TiVo iPad App is the Gold Standard for how a remote/guide App should be designed.


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