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Jedi Master
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kudos to TW for his usual stellar presentation on Ilife

How may web sites are you allowed with I web?
 
Posts: 1057 | Location: dearbon,MI , USA | Registered: June 11, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I think I can chime in on this one because it is SO FRUSTRATING to me.

iWeb only allows one website at a time. There is no File>Open in iWeb so once you create a iWeb Project, you can only add or subtract to it page by page (but there is a workaround that I have found).

So if you are like Terry and has his Tech Blog that he created in iWeb, you can't close that and create a new iWeb Site to sell his Books.

iWeb is also tightly integrated with .Mac but you can export to a folder and FTP it to another webspace, but if you were to create a whole new site, I think it overwrites the existing site. Even if you save them after Export in different folders or places, there is no way to Open an Exported iWeb site back in the App to Edit or Update it.

I tried to Open and Edit my iWeb Site in GoLive, but the hidden HTML code is a mess (worse than the early version of GoLive, at least the Spacers and most of the Code were in a logical order).

iWeb recently got a Software Update and I was hoping for multiple site support (simple Open/Save dialogue like ANY OTHER Mac App). Nope didn't happen!

If anyone is interested in the workaround for Multiple iWeb sites I can do some screenshots and post how to do it.

Also if anyone who has used the iWeb App is bored with the supplied Templates and Themes, this guy has a tutorial on how to create and/or edit your own new iWeb Themes.

iWeb Templates

My iWeb Question that didn't get asked at the meeting:

Has anyone using iWeb had any problems with Windows Users not being able to view iWeb Photo Pages?

I created a Photo Page and some of my friends who use Windows had trouble loading and viewing it.

Is it because iWeb uses PNG files instead of JPG's?

Here's the URL if anybody wants to test it.

Playboy Superbowl Party Pics

Yes, they are Pics from Playboy's Superbowl party, but are pretty safe (unless you don't like cottontails).

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Art,
That's kinda true, but not totally.
While you can only have ONE iWeb master site tied your .Mac account or published to a folder, you CAN create multiple sites under the master site.

Under File you have "New Page" and "New Site." If you choose New Site it will in fact give you a New Site that is not linked to your other site. It can then have it's own pages, etc. It will have it's own URL that can be pointed to.

Art you're expecting separate site documents and iWeb doesn't do that. However, most consumers wouldn't need that. This app was designed for people that will most likely do one to two sites for themselves and their organizations. It can do that.


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New Site
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Terry White:
Art,
That's kinda true, but not totally.
While you can only have ONE iWeb master site tied your .Mac account or published to a folder, you CAN create multiple sites under the master site.

Under File you have "New Page" and "New Site." If you choose New Site it will in fact give you a New Site that is not linked to your other site. It can then have it's own pages, etc. It will have it's own URL that can be pointed to.

Art you're expecting separate site documents and iWeb doesn't do that. However, most consumers wouldn't need that. This app was designed for people that will most likely do one to two sites for themselves and their organizations. It can do that.


True... But how easily can you export that second site to a separate webspace (I'll test tonight)?

Let's day Joe Average Mac User has a .Mac account and also Comcast Webspace. He wants to do Family Photos on .Mac and another site on his Comcast Space (or AOL, DSL or whatever).

I think that is reasonable seeing how .Mac is NOT a ISP but just provides Web type Internet Services (Apple can not get you on the Internet).

Granted 85% or more of the Mac population will not need more than one website or the multiple site feature, but back in 1995, I never thought I would need more than ONE e-mail address.

It reminds me of iTunes and iPhoto 1.0 or better yet, the Simple Finder back in the OS 7/OS 8 days.

Simple Finder was a way to keep a User from messing up things by hiding things from the User.

Keep iWeb idiot proof as it is by default, but give me a way to get to more Advanced features if I choose.

How hard would it be to code a Open/Save As feature in the App?

It creates a file called Domain.sites. I am sure the functionality is there because of the .sites extension.

Just a matter of time I hope.

Apple has a REALLY great App here (I am REALLY impressed by it), I was just a little disappointed in the way it handles certain things.

PS. Just tested it, did a Export to Folder, I would have to grab that second sub site and FTP it to the Webspace so it is a bit easier than my other work around.

I am just leery because I had a major glitch exporting a Photo Page from iPhoto to iWeb before the 1.0.1 update, it crashed and I lost everything in my Blog.

If I had a "Open" or "Save As" feature. I could have just went to the previous version before the crash.

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Posts: 641 | Location: Detroit, MI USA | Registered: June 10, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Until then, check out this story on macosxhints for an Applescript to manage multiple .sites files:

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060126122633213


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Professor Hubert Farnsworth: “Nothing is impossible. Not if you can imagine it. That’s what being a scientist is all about.”
Cubert J. Farnsworth: “No, that’s what being a magical elf is all about.”

 
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Originally posted by Jack Beckman:
Until then, check out this story on macosxhints for an Applescript to manage multiple .sites files:

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060126122633213


I did see that in my travels a while back Jack, but Applescript scares me.

I was hoping that someone would convert that to a Automator Script or create a iWeb Plug In to do that.


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Art,

Please don't take the following as anything but curiosity on my part, because, really, I just would like to understand why you feel this way.

I'm curious as to why Applescript would scare you. Most of them just do things you could do manually if you wanted to do them over and over again. Anything that requires admin powers still requires a password.

If I took this same script, packaged it as a program, with its own icon instead of the Applescript one, would you still be concerned?

Again, just trying to figure out why you are concerned.


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Professor Hubert Farnsworth: “Nothing is impossible. Not if you can imagine it. That’s what being a scientist is all about.”
Cubert J. Farnsworth: “No, that’s what being a magical elf is all about.”

 
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The party slide show works fine under FireFox 1.5.0.1 on Windows XP Home (up to date).
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Jack Beckman:
Art,

Please don't take the following as anything but curiosity on my part, because, really, I just would like to understand why you feel this way.

I'm curious as to why Applescript would scare you. Most of them just do things you could do manually if you wanted to do them over and over again. Anything that requires admin powers still requires a password.

If I took this same script, packaged it as a program, with its own icon instead of the Applescript one, would you still be concerned?

Again, just trying to figure out why you are concerned.


Just bad memories from OS 9 days. Opening a text Script, copy, paste, one thing out of a place and it doesn't work.

Put a pretty icon there so I can double click and install.

: )

I don't mind running scripts from the menu. Sometimes Updates of Software break scripts also.

It's just me, I've only opened Terminal less than 5 times since I have been in OS X (since Public Beta), Applescript gives me that same feeling, don't know why.


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Well Terry was right ,,,the ease of use is a 10

http://web.mac.com/janprusinowski/iWeb/Site/Welcome.html

Is there a way to change my name to DC men's club in the address?
 
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Congratulations! You're off to a great start with your site.

iWeb URLs are http://web.mac.com/your_dot_mac_name/iWeb

What comes next is what you've named the site. So if you click on the word "Site" in iWeb and rename it dcmensclub the URL would be:
http://web.mac.com/janprusinowski/iWeb/dcmensclub/Welcome.html

If you want some like: http://dcmensclub.com
you can register your own domain name with a domain name service that offers "forwarding" so that when someone types in http://dcmensclub.com it would automatically go to your iWeb site.

For example: http://creativesuitetips.com takes you to my Podcast on iTunes.


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you don't sleep either or the game was too exciting?

If i give this to the head geek at the school he should be able to provide that domain name?

also can i insert the church's URL somewhere on the page?
 
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Originally posted by janp:
you don't sleep either or the game was too exciting?

If i give this to the head geek at the school he should be able to provide that domain name?


Be sure to check around for deals on Domain Registration. You should pay no more than $15 per year, but may find as low as $8 (GoDaddy.com or Dotster.com). Yahoo had a special for $2.99 for the first year.

I agree with Terry, great start on the site. It comes up not found on the clickable link above.

You should give out the URL as:

http://web.mac.com/janprusinowski/iWeb/

quote:
also can i insert the church's URL somewhere on the page?


Yes. Highlight the Text you want to make as a Link, Got to your Inspector pallet, click on the last tab (Blue circle w/Arrow).

Uncheck: Make All Hyperlinks Inactive

Then type in the URL of the Hyperlink.

And click: Enable As a Hyperlink.



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thanks again for the info

jp
 
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A week or so ago Apple changed things so that now you use an even shorter URL:
http://web.mac.com/pmevans


"I really need a new tagline"
—P M Evans
 
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Thank God! It was dumb having to put the "iWeb" on the end and it being case sensitive. This is a great tip!

I wish Apple would change the urls to:
http://pmevans.mac.com
It would be so much easier!

quote:
Originally posted by Phyllis Evans:
A week or so ago Apple changed things so that now you use an even shorter URL:
http://web.mac.com/pmevans


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http://terrywhite.com

There are two kinds of computer users: those who have lost data and those who are about to — backup your Mac!
 
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Originally posted by Terry White:
I wish Apple would change the urls to:
http://pmevans.mac.com
It would be so much easier!


Then they'd have to kill off the homepage stuff.
http://homepage.mac.com/pmevans
Smile


"I really need a new tagline"
—P M Evans
 
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No they wouldn't. Your homepage url would remain the same. The new URL would be for the iWeb sites.

quote:
Originally posted by Phyllis Evans:
quote:
Originally posted by Terry White:
I wish Apple would change the urls to:
http://pmevans.mac.com
It would be so much easier!


Then they'd have to kill off the homepage stuff.
http://homepage.mac.com/pmevans
Smile


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You can never go wrong by doing the right thing.

http://terrywhite.com

There are two kinds of computer users: those who have lost data and those who are about to — backup your Mac!
 
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So why does this URL come up on the bar when I hit visit

http://web.mac.com/janprusinowski/iWeb/FE8937A2-E04E-4E...42940C5/Welcome.html
 
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So phyllis ,,how did you change your URL name to Homepage.mac.com/pevams?
 
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