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...is this normal?

I've noticed lately that my once super fast
MacBookPro is giving me beach ball issues.

I'd added a few apps recently...

So, I"ve turned off a lot of processes to start
only when I launch them, but this one, java,
and kernal_task are holding on to a substantial
amount of RAM, not to mention every open Safari window.

Is there a way to decrease the amount of RAM each is
using or are some of these beyond my control?
I don't have the issue that others complain about,
com.apple.IconServicesAgent also using up CPU power.
(Or I haven't seen it yet.)
 
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I notice on my Mac Book Pro that it slows considerably if I allow Crash Plan to be running in the background all the time. I Pause it if I am working and all processing really speeds up. Then I plug it in and let it churn at night. If you use Crash Plan, you might try this.
 
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Originally posted by Donna:
I notice on my Mac Book Pro that it slows considerably if I allow Crash Plan to be running in the background all the time. I Pause it if I am working and all processing really speeds up. Then I plug it in and let it churn at night. If you use Crash Plan, you might try this.


Yes, Crash Plan was were I first really noticed the slowdown.
But, I've also noticed that I have the
"churning" icon in the bottom right of
a Finder window, and it doesn't stop (sometimes).

 
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Chita, how is the free disk space? Is it possible that there are leftover temp files hogging the HD? That would slow down file swaps. Notice came up on my Air tonight that I've hit the 10% free mark. Time to do some thinning.


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Posts: 3781 | Location: Redford, MI | Registered: June 10, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Originally posted by Phyllis Evans:
Chita, how is the free disk space? Is it possible that there are leftover temp files hogging the HD? That would slow down file swaps. Notice came up on my Air tonight that I've hit the 10% free mark. Time to do some thinning.


Plenty of free space—197GB.
 
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Poobah
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I notice that things slow WAY down on my desktop MacMini (OS 10.6.8) if Time Machine is running. - Especially with Safari, though it can affect other apps I'm working in. When it happens, I stop TM from the Finder icons (not in prefs) to get work done. Eventually it starts on its own in the cycle, so I don't need to manually start it up again. (I don't have Crash Plan, so can't speak to that possible issue.)

Seems like a processor use problem (though I'm not tech enough to say for sure).


"For what is age but youth's full bloom,
A riper, more transcendent youth" - Oliver Wendell Holmes
 
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PS: I have an external backup drive for TM always connected.


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A riper, more transcendent youth" - Oliver Wendell Holmes
 
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Just curious: Why Crashplan rather than using TM? Sounds like it does the same thing.


"For what is age but youth's full bloom,
A riper, more transcendent youth" - Oliver Wendell Holmes
 
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TM and SuperDuper for home backup.
Crash Plan for off site backup.

Now, back to the topic...

Anyone, with knowledge of what might
be causing the topic discussion apps/operants
(com.apple.IconServicesAgent, kernal_tasks, java)
to bloat?
Is this their normal behavior?
 
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Do you run any Java programs besides CrashPlan?

This might help with the other issue:
https://discussions.apple.com/...ge/24368294#24368294

Some solutions here as well:
https://discussions.apple.com/...67?start=45&tstart=0


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Professor Hubert Farnsworth: “Nothing is impossible. Not if you can imagine it. That’s what being a scientist is all about.”
Cubert J. Farnsworth: “No, that’s what being a magical elf is all about.”

 
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Originally posted by Jack Beckman:
Do you run any Java programs besides CrashPlan?

This might help with the other issue:
https://discussions.apple.com/...ge/24368294#24368294

Some solutions here as well:
https://discussions.apple.com/...67?start=45&tstart=0


Yes, I was reading those...
My fan doesn't come on and the CPU usage doesn't escalate,
just the RAM usage will increase. So, I wasn't sure if I should
try the Terminal solution.

I did at one point "kill" com.apple.Icon..." with Activity Monitor.
It went back up after restart.
I've removed all startup items from auto Login
Toggle use of Safari and Chrome to see which is less RAM intensive.
Chrome seems to be winning that.

1. Does Creative Cloud use java?
I've quit the CC app totally when I'm not using it.
2. Crash Plan has been relegated to certain hours when I should be sleeping.

These changes seemed to have slowed down the excessive
use of RAM (per Activity Monitor) and sightings of the
spinning beach ball, but I've yet to get back into my
Photoshop video files. Will report when I do.
I also Restart more often than I'd like, to clear things out.

Would a clean install of Mavericks, instead of installing over
Mountain Lion make a difference? Mountain Lion was a clean install.
 
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Clean install? Hard to say. In theory, it should be better. In practice? I haven't done a clean install in years except to a machine I just got and wanted to wipe, and I don't seem to have any more or weirder problems than anyone else, as far as I can tell.


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Professor Hubert Farnsworth: “Nothing is impossible. Not if you can imagine it. That’s what being a scientist is all about.”
Cubert J. Farnsworth: “No, that’s what being a magical elf is all about.”

 
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