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I'm in the market for a new router,
and am considering the now taller AirPort Extreme.

Do you have one?
Have experience with one?
What do you think?
 
Posts: 1614 | Registered: June 16, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I have three spread around the house. They are awesome but consider the fact that there are newer, faster, more feature rich 3rd party options. Apple doesn’t plan to make Airport base stations anymore.


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Posts: 6152 | Location: Atlanta, GA | Registered: June 10, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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So, if my Airport base station dies, what third-party brand would you recommend?
 
Posts: 2264 | Location: Ann Arbor MI USA | Registered: October 22, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Any thoughts on the Google WiFi system?
Here
 
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I have not used any of the current mesh systems, but lately when I am looking for items that I have no personal experience with, and don't know anyone who does, I have turned to The Wirecutter (wirecutter.com) for reviews, and haven't been disappointed yet. Here's their recommendations for mesh systems:

https://thewirecutter.com/revi...esh-networking-kits/

If you don't need a mesh and just want to replace a wifi router, they have that covered too:

https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-wi-fi-router/

I will not buy any more Airport as Apple has said they are out of that business, in spite of selling their old gear. They do at lease still send out firmware updates.


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Posts: 5470 | Location: Sterling Heights, Mi | Registered: January 25, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I have a 2 year old Time Capsule that I am very happy with. It does cover most of the house even though there are a few dead spots. I would like to add an AirPort Extreme in our Great Room to solve this issue.

The Mesh Network systems are very appealing and I agree with Jack about reading the reviews on The Wirecutter website for honest feedback. One issue with creating a Smart Home is the continuous draw on your wifi system. Home Automation devices want to run off the 2.4ghz network and the more you add, the heavier the load. I have been interested in the Eero Mesh system, followed by the Linksys Velop system.


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Posts: 2104 | Location: Orion Twp, Michigan | Registered: July 25, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Thanks for the article, but, wow, did you read the comments?
Most of the users who stated they purchased the top recommended
system, say they returned it because it became unreliable, dropping
connections on a regular basis, after a few months. (Deal breaker for me.)
And chastised the normally reliable reviewer for recommending it.

I'm just saying...After reading this, and the article comments, my decision
became harder, if I decide to go with a new system – and now begin my
research diligence, or easier; go purchase an AirPort Extreme,
and see what my options are in a few years.

Whew. Head spinning.
 
Posts: 1614 | Registered: June 16, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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quote:
Originally posted by CHunter:
... if I decide to go with a new system – and now begin my
research diligence, or easier; go purchase an AirPort Extreme,
and see what my options are in a few years.

Whew. Head spinning.

I currently manage six active Airport Extremes in locations from Birmingham Temple to Dodge Center, MN. Three are AirPort5,117 (flat) and three are AirPort7,120 (tower). All are running the most recent code available and all are trouble-free. IPv6 service is as good as your network supplier. The newest Extreme was made in July 2013 and the oldest in July 2011. I have been using Airport Extremes of one kind or another since the Gen 2 model with no hardware failures.

I also manage a melange of other roughly similar devices
  • ARRIS NVG599 ATT Voice Gateway
  • ASUS RT-N16 Router
  • Buffalo WCR-GN Router
  • DPC3941B Comcast Gateway
  • Linksys E1200 Router
  • Linksys RE1000 Range Extender
  • Netgear WGR614v9 Router
  • Netgear WNDR3400v2 Router

The Linksys devices regular power-cycle resets. One DPC3941B has been reset once since installation. All require hands-on management and have wildly disparate user interfaces and code update processes.

Bottom line: Apple Airport Extreme (Gen 5 or newer) is still my choice. Based on my experience, a new Airport Extreme appears to be a safe choice to get you through several years.

Have you ever seen a four-eyed liiiizard?

This message has been edited. Last edited by: James R. Cutler,
 
Posts: 1964 | Registered: January 02, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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This may not be relevant, but how about Wi-fi directly from whatever internet service is used, no "in between" hardware? All - and I do mean ALL the wi-fi in our house is directly from a new (Aug. 2017 install) AT&T internet Gateway box, which also has several ethernet ports - used for printers so they're accessible by wi-fi. Used to have a range extender for DSL service, but it's not set up for this system.

PS: To put into context: Our house is a 1950's spread-out ranch with large addition behind the garage. AT&T box is at the far south end in the added room. Occasionally wi-fi in the furthest room (bedroom, north end) can be iffy, but personally don't normally use computer there.


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A riper, more transcendent youth" - Oliver Wendell Holmes
 
Posts: 2066 | Location: West Bloomfield MI USA | Registered: June 13, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Mary Jo,
One of my biggest reasons for having the 'in-between hardware'...

For what you are paying to your internet provider
in monthly installments to rent their Wifi router/modem;
in a year, you would/could cover the purchase price of
your own (owned) modem and router and not need to purchase
these items for a NUMBER of years.
 
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Hmmmm. The AT&T Gateway box is THE internet connection. It IS router & modem & ethernet hub all in one - same as all their internet Gateways over my many DSL years. It's THE required hardware, with no other machines. The billing has never indicated a rental fee, though it may be a hidden cost. Nonetheless, I wouldn't even have internet service without it. But it does it all. (For the record, this and landline phone are my only AT&T services. - no TV, cell phones or anything else. We have OTA TV's. I was skeptical when they said it could be installed independently of their other products, but it was. - Also was free installation.)


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A riper, more transcendent youth" - Oliver Wendell Holmes
 
Posts: 2066 | Location: West Bloomfield MI USA | Registered: June 13, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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OK Gurus,
Got a question for you, because I know some of
you have gone through this (and possibly wished for
what I'm wishing for).

I'm planning to set up my new AirPort Extreme
by importing the configuration settings from the
existing one into it.

The steps are to:
Export the configuration while the existing one is on
Disconnect it
Plug in new AirPort Extreme
Set up with name and password
Import configuration.

During setup, I'd like to give new AE the same name
as the one I'm disconnecting.

Question is:
With the same name and configurations, will
my WiFi devices look at this as the old AE
and still connect to it, or see this as a
completely new AE because it IS a different unit
and I will have to reconnect them anew?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by CHunter:
...I'm planning to set up my new AirPort Extreme
by importing the configuration settings from the
existing one into it.

The steps are to:
Export the configuration while the existing one is on
Disconnect it
Plug in new AirPort Extreme
Set up with name and password
Import configuration.

Spot on.
quote:
During setup, I'd like to give new AE the same name
as the one I'm disconnecting.

The Airport Extreme name is included in the configuration file.
quote:
With the same name and configurations, will
my WiFi devices look at this as the old AE
and still connect to it, or see this as a
completely new AE because it IS a different unit
and I will have to reconnect them anew?

Your WiFi devices look for the Network Name (SSID) and connect using the password stored in the Keychain. Since the SSID/Password combinations are stored in the configuration file you import, your devices will see the same SSIDs and connect without knowing the Airport Extreme is now different hardware.

Opinion:
This is why I like the Apple Airport Extreme. Since the configuration file schema has remained constant, I have been able to move an existing configuration to new devices through several Airport Extreme generations, starting with the flying saucer and continuing through the latest tower.
 
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Thank you Jim,
For confirming.
Just completed the installation,
it took all of 15 minutes±,
plus a couple of firmware updates
and recycling the modem.

Best of all, I do not have to
"Forget/Reset back to Default/Reconfigure"
14 home automation devices that said I would
have to reset if I installed a new router.
They are all working just fine with the new AE.
 
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Another Spoiled ..... satisfied Apple user via the artistic ways of James Cutler.


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Posts: 1725 | Location: Detroit,MI,USA | Registered: June 10, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Poobah
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I am sooo glad I was wrong about having to reset your Home Automation devices after replacing your AirPort Extreme.


Dave McGuire
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Posts: 2104 | Location: Orion Twp, Michigan | Registered: July 25, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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LOL,
As I said, what I've read so far, instructed
me to Forget the Device, before installing a
new router.

And, I had a devil of a time a while back,
when I changed the password to my router,
and did not Forget my WEMO devices beforehand.

Not wanting to reset 14 devices was
the catalyst to find a solution.
I have all kinds of rules, set up for my devices.
Research and laziness were my motivators. Wink
And I knew someone here HAD TO HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE,
we have too many great minds in this group.
 
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Enjoy the new AirPort! Like I said i'm still using mine until they die OR something "significantly" better (that would justify replacing something that works fine) hits the market.

However, here's an interesting read.
https://www.macworld.com/artic...-to-discontinue.html


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Posts: 6152 | Location: Atlanta, GA | Registered: June 10, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Well, he certainly has a robust opinion.

Like everyone who writes an article like this,
no matter what magazine it's in, "it's his opinion."
(Take what you like and leave the rest.)
Undoubtedly, advances in technology will eventually see
some of his opinions come to fruition.


Terry, I am so enjoying my new AirPort Extreme.
To the point that the only reason I know it's there
is because my internet service is faster, my
home automation devices connect faster and work better.
I didn't want headaches or more to do just for replacing
a router. Choosing any other option would have been just that.

As, I've always said, "If it works for you, that's
all that matters."

Luckily, I can think for myself.
He can have his opinion, and for the immediate future, I'm good. Smile
 
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And Apple apparently is discontinuing https://www.macworld.com/artic...airport-express.html them.


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—P M Evans
 
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